My friend Mary loves to tell the story of the year we went to the movies on Mother's Day. We figured everyone would be with their mothers and we'd have the theater to ourselves. WRONG! It was full of dads with kids, probably giving mom a day of rest. You know how that goes. They let them eat too much crap, don't make them use the bathroom before the movie and it's up and down through the whole thing. We specifically picked a movie that wasn't really for kids, although it was not inappropriate, it just wouldn't interest them. So these kids have 2 strikes against them already, a movie they probably don't want to see or don't understand, and a dad who is letting them make themselves sick. I don't care. I paid good money and I'm not having my experience ruined, darn it!
About 20 minutes into the film it starts right behind us. Dad and 4 kids, ages about 11 and under. Look like a bunch of scruffy ragamuffins. We saw it coming. Spilled popcorn, get me more. I have to use the bathroom. All at full voice. No one knows the indoor voice or the 12 inch voice. Dad is up and down with these kids constantly, and he's just as bad as they are, kicking into the backs of our seats and using his own full voice to tell them to be quiet.
I can't take it. The third time he smacks my seat, I turn around, "I'm sorry, is my seat disturbing you?" "Sorry," Dad mumbles, slamming himself back down. He gets up about a 1/2 hour later to take 2 kids to the bathroom, and is much quieter. The two left behind are the eldest, a girl, and a little one, about 4. The little one, who is sitting farthest from the dad, immediately starts, "Where did they go? Where's daddy? When's he coming back?" I give her some credit, she was trying to whisper. The charmingly caring older sister keeps loudly responding, "None of your business. I'm not telling you," and other standard older-sister replies. Mary, sitting next to me, keeps turning just her eyes to look at me. She knows I'm going to blow soon. And then it happens...

The little kid starts crying and getting louder, and the big sister gets louder telling her to shut up. Staying seated, I turn almost my entire body around and do the intense teacher/parent stare at the little kid. I stick out my left arm and do the teacher snap to get her attention. "Your dad took the other 2 to the bathroom. He'll be right back. You can stop crying." I try to say this nicely, while being firm. It does shut her up, though, but now she looks scared of me, as do the people behind this lovely family. I don't care. Mary's body is shaking from laughing. Now I go in for the kill, the big sister. I turn my head further to the left, and give her the double-snap. "What's your problem? You couldn't just answer her? You had to disrupt every one's movie? I'd sit and shut up if I were you, or your dad is going to hear about how you made your sister cry." pause "Do you understand me?" She shakes her head and now they're both quiet.
Dad comes back, totally oblivious, and the rest of the movie is fine. If he had prepared his kids properly for the film, I wouldn't have needed to speak to them.
People who are in charge of children, whether parents, nannies, or teachers and aunties like me, need to set expectations with children. When I take my students on a field trip, I go over the positive behaviors expected, and mention a few negatives that I don't want to see. I do the same thing with my nephews and niece. By focusing on the positive behaviors, they know what to do.
Telling them what NOT to do doesn't give them a solution. "Don't kick the seat in front of you in the theater," should really be "Keep your feet in your own seat or dangling." We always have a good time, and my students are usually complimented on their behavior. I can laugh with them and enjoy whatever program we are experiencing and everyone has a good time. Of course there is always someone who does something foolish, maybe dangerous (One time a student scaled 10 feet of the outer limestone wall of an office building as we were waiting to enter Symphony Hall!), and then discipline is necessary, but advance preparation in manners and over all behavior for a certain venue always helps and the adult usually doesn't have to get in any one's face. Of course this doesn't stop a melt down from an overtired or hungry child, but it sure helps with the foolishness!
Have you ever dealt with strangers' children or others when necessary? What do you do with the children you are in charge of in public if they act up?
Telling them what NOT to do doesn't give them a solution. "Don't kick the seat in front of you in the theater," should really be "Keep your feet in your own seat or dangling." We always have a good time, and my students are usually complimented on their behavior. I can laugh with them and enjoy whatever program we are experiencing and everyone has a good time. Of course there is always someone who does something foolish, maybe dangerous (One time a student scaled 10 feet of the outer limestone wall of an office building as we were waiting to enter Symphony Hall!), and then discipline is necessary, but advance preparation in manners and over all behavior for a certain venue always helps and the adult usually doesn't have to get in any one's face. Of course this doesn't stop a melt down from an overtired or hungry child, but it sure helps with the foolishness!Have you ever dealt with strangers' children or others when necessary? What do you do with the children you are in charge of in public if they act up?
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This is a controversial topic! AS you know I live in South Africa and we have a proverb: It takes a village to raise a child. In traditional African culture, all members of a community would rerprimand a child when he/she misbehaved. Today we have swung far left to liberalism and this is a thing of the past. I wouldn't not easily discipline someone else's child - but I certainly made sure my own became reasonable people!
Ummm....? I've never really dealt with strangers children. I guess I've not been put in that position.
I would, however, not hesitate to say something if all that was going on behind me at a movie.
I also have said something to parents that were not taking care of their children very well..like not long ago, I noticed a car in front of me that didn't have their children in seat belts..when we pulled up side by side at the light, I rolled down my window and motioned for him to roll his down..when he did, I suggested that their children needed selt belts and....he just shot me the finger and drove off. But, at least I tried...
OOOOOOOOO I love this post.
I know you are a fellow MA girl. Do you listen to 96.9 talk radio. They were discussing this same issue a few weeks ago. I guess the Herald had some article about bringing kids to PG-13 or R movies when they aren't old enough.
I can't stand annoying kid at movies. That is why I never go anymore. I wish people would take kids to KID movies!
My blood would have been boiling!
I'm like you. I will handle a situation if the in-charge grown-up fails to do so. I fully employ the teacher look. It never fails.
Oh my goodness...don't get me started...lol!
I usually don't have to say anything...it seems I have a quelling look that shuts them up...
I was patient on the cruise though...the theaters seats were way too close together...had one little girl singing all of the princess songs in my ear ;D
Hope you are having a lovely day!
I would not say anything for fear that the parent might be one of the deranged people out loose in this world but I would give dirty looks. I will say that my grandchildren behave when we go out or else we will speak to them. But good for you!
Roberta Anne
I do set limits for other people´s children once in a while, e.g. when their parents do not notice that they run around with sticky fingers, but it has taken me many years to learn to do it when necessary without just being angry which rarely helps :)
Me too! I always speak up and they usually listen. Sometimes, I think it is just shock that someone corrected them, other times I think they listen because they appreciate any attention at all.
Oh,I hate kids that kick my seat in the movies or parents who don't watch them. My son has autism and he even behaves in a movie theatre! Bobbi
This is exactly why I no longer go to the movies.
Aside from Jill's kids, the only time I would ever feel comfortable reprimanding someone else's child would be if I were babysitting. If they are not in my personal care, I don't feel I have a right to discipline them. That being said, I'm not so sure that in a situation like you described, that I wouldn't pull the parent aside for a word or two.
Aside from Jill, if ANYONE besides me or Jimmy scolds my kids, I get PISSED. And this includes grandparents. If I'm present, it's MY job to put them in line. The problem is, that a lot of parents just don't. It's laziness in my opinion.
Thank goodness my girls are well behaved, but let me tell you, if a stranger EVER scolds my kid in my presence, they're not going to be too happy when I'm done with them.
Justine :o )
Oh, Elizabeth! Good for you! Poor children, it's really not their fault, is it? It's the parents for not teaching them just like you've said. I hate it when someone comes to my house with their children and the first thing the kids want to do is start running up the stairs and prowling around. I don't have any qualms about telling them they have no business go up my stairs. If the parents won't make them mind, then honey, I'm going to open my mouth - but very sweetly :)
Be a sweetie,
shelia ;)
I don't have any problems saying something to a kid whose misbehaving in public. The parents are usually standing there with their heads up their asses anyway. Once my neighbor was telling me how her husband's nephews came over and they were jumping on her sofa. She was afraid to tell them to stop because their mom was there. Excuse Me? It's YOUR house and YOUR sofa. Why wouldn't you say something to them? (I feel better now. Thanks for letting me get this out. Elizabeth. lol)
I haven't had to do anything as drastic as that (and boy would I love to have been there!), but I have made some minor corrections. People should read your post and then LegalMist's post this week. They're tandem teaching points and I think they don't contradict each other.
Thanks for sharing with BPOTW!
I love this! Great story and well done! :) visiting from BPOTW
I agree with BPOTW that your post does not contradict mine.
I have, on occasion, corrected kids who aren't mine, when their parents were either not present or not paying attention, and the behavior was completely inappropriate or dangerous. And I would hope that some kind strangers would assist with my kids if they are behaving badly when I am not there to correct them.
Verbal reprimands from strangers can be very effective teaching tools, and I encourage them in appropriate situations (like the one you've described).
Big difference between that and kid-hating meanies glaring at kids who are just being kids, in family restaurants or *Disneyland*!!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Wow! A very controversial subject. My kids are still pretty little so I don't have a lot to say, but I would have definitely spoken up to those children. I don't even take my children to the theater (I have a 20 month old and an almost five year old) and if I did it would definitely be to a kids movie.
On the other hand though, I have a cousin who always SCREAMS at my kids before I can even have a chance to and it is really annoying. I don't let my children act like maniacs and I think that she needs to let me do the disciplining. The crazy thing is...her kid is the one who is always unruly when we go out.
By the way, I found your blog on BPOTW. :)
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